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| | | AZCactus | | Taranis |  |  | | Reg. Date | : | 01/05/2013 | | Posts | : | 4,524 | | Location | : | AZ |
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| | Posted : 11 May 2020 - 04:03 Post title : Re: popping (Re: rayglo) | | | rayglo wrote:
I didn't ask for nor was I advised to change them. The bike always had the pop after my first set of pipes and decat. |
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...after a dyno, my bike has minimal pop. She's stock with the exception of short tors, cat bypass (BC eliminator airbox next) . And I mentioned fuel injectors because the tuner said I was stretching it. Good luck to you. 
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| | | MotorMac | | Jupiter | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 29/08/2010 | | Posts | : | 1,790 | | Location | : | Nor Cal, United States |
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| | Posted : 11 May 2020 - 14:51 Post title : Re: popping (Re: rayglo) | | |
rayglo wrote:
MM if you are referring to the SAI, My bike dose not have one. |
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Yes, SAI, thanks. I know they dropped it and even produced a bracket to eliminate the SAI.
And, frankly, the popping on decel isn't unique to the Triumph, I hear it on lots of bikes, has to be a smog thing.
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| | | rayglo | | Jupiter | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 27/10/2012 | | Posts | : | 1,746 | | Location | : | east brunswick, nj, United States |
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| | Posted : 11 May 2020 - 16:04 Post title : Re: popping (Re: Slcharger) | | | Kim I hooked up blue tooth diagnostic. There were two choices to select, anyway I got a map code of 20359.
What are your thoughts
What is the stock 2700 map number?
| | Post edited by rayglo on 11 May 2020 - 16:11 |
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| | | rayglo | | Jupiter | | | | Reg. Date | : | 27/10/2012 | | Posts | : | 1,746 | | Location | : | east brunswick, nj, United States |
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| | Posted : 11 May 2020 - 16:16 Post title : Re: popping (Re: rayglo) | | | Thanks Rich, Mike I hope I can get this sorted.
It's not that it's impossible
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| | | Slcharger | | Jupiter | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 18/02/2016 | | Posts | : | 1,661 | | Location | : | Denmark |
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| | Posted : 11 May 2020 - 21:00 Post title : Re: popping (Re: rayglo) | | |
rayglo wrote:
Kim I hooked up blue tooth diagnostic. There were two choices to select, anyway I got a map code of 20359.
What are your thoughts
What is the stock 2700 map number? |
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Stock 1700 map is 20310.
20359 is the one to use with your mods., but still, I don't know how the PC5 will handle it.
| Big Bird, Bordeaux with " Celtic theme " Airbrush, 2010, 1700CC, ABS, 65.000 km. Lowered with Nitros rear shocks, Linear front springs, Burchard forward footrest kit, Kuryakyn ISO grips, LOTS of chrome, SLcharger REV2+ tune, Modified Cee Baileys windshield, Oil pressure gauge, Air box elimination kit, Portet cylinderhead, Intake cam advanved 8 degree, Exhaust cam retarded 2 degree, 10.5 C/R, Knock sensor, Machined flywheel, DNA Chrome Spoke wheels, 18x8.5"- AVON AV72- 240/40/18, 21x3.5"- AVON AV71- 120/70/21, Corbin seat with backrest, 20W fork oil. Hiflo HF303RC oil filter, Penrite Racing 20-20W60 engine oil, Adjurl lights.
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| | | rayglo | | Jupiter | | | | Reg. Date | : | 27/10/2012 | | Posts | : | 1,746 | | Location | : | east brunswick, nj, United States |
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| | Posted : 11 May 2020 - 21:58 Post title : Re: popping (Re: Slcharger) | | | Thanks Kim, so I don't need a different tune?and secondly is there anything I can suggest to the tuner to help the tuner?
Also this 20359 is compatible with 1600 and 1700?
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| | | Slcharger | | Jupiter | | | | Reg. Date | : | 18/02/2016 | | Posts | : | 1,661 | | Location | : | Denmark |
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| | Posted : 11 May 2020 - 22:08 Post title : Re: popping (Re: rayglo) | | |
rayglo wrote:
Thanks Kim, so I don't need a different tune?and secondly is there anything I can suggest to the tuner to help the tuner?
Also this 20359 is compatible with 1600 and 1700? |
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Ray
20359 is for the 1700 only.
Ask the tuner to modify the F tables the same way I did in my tune, means write 0 in the first row, from 1200 RPM and upwards.
| Big Bird, Bordeaux with " Celtic theme " Airbrush, 2010, 1700CC, ABS, 65.000 km. Lowered with Nitros rear shocks, Linear front springs, Burchard forward footrest kit, Kuryakyn ISO grips, LOTS of chrome, SLcharger REV2+ tune, Modified Cee Baileys windshield, Oil pressure gauge, Air box elimination kit, Portet cylinderhead, Intake cam advanved 8 degree, Exhaust cam retarded 2 degree, 10.5 C/R, Knock sensor, Machined flywheel, DNA Chrome Spoke wheels, 18x8.5"- AVON AV72- 240/40/18, 21x3.5"- AVON AV71- 120/70/21, Corbin seat with backrest, 20W fork oil. Hiflo HF303RC oil filter, Penrite Racing 20-20W60 engine oil, Adjurl lights.
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| | | Leethal | | Zeus | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 24/01/2011 | | Posts | : | 6,407 | | Location | : | Australia |
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| | Posted : 11 May 2020 - 22:32 Post title : Re: popping (Re: Slcharger) | | |
Slcharger wrote:
rayglo wrote:
Kim I hooked up blue tooth diagnostic. There were two choices to select, anyway I got a map code of 20359.
What are your thoughts
What is the stock 2700 map number? |
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Stock 1700 map is 20310.
20359 is the one to use with your mods., but still, I don't know how the PC5 will handle it.
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The PCV will over ride it with whatever tune has been downloaded to it.
| Experience is something you get just after you needed it 
1600,Foran Razorbacks, Meerkat bypass, Dyno tune, real headlight,plenty of chrome,switchblade pegs, Hagon Nitro shocks & Ikon progressive fork springs etc. Scorpion Western Low handlebars. PH adjustable fork caps.
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| | | rayglo | | Jupiter | | | | Reg. Date | : | 27/10/2012 | | Posts | : | 1,746 | | Location | : | east brunswick, nj, United States |
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| | Posted : 11 May 2020 - 22:39 Post title : Re: popping (Re: Leethal) | | | Ok so I don't need a confrontation with the tech about the tune. But I see the 0 column doesn't start at 1200 , it's 2 boxes up
| | Post edited by rayglo on 11 May 2020 - 22:50 |
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| | | Leethal | | Zeus | | | | Reg. Date | : | 24/01/2011 | | Posts | : | 6,407 | | Location | : | Australia |
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| | Posted : 11 May 2020 - 22:51 Post title : Re: popping (Re: Slcharger) | | | Slcharger wrote:
rayglo wrote:
Thanks Kim, so I don't need a different tune?and secondly is there anything I can suggest to the tuner to help the tuner?
Also this 20359 is compatible with 1600 and 1700? |
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Ray
20359 is for the 1700 only.
Ask the tuner to modify the F tables the same way I did in my tune, means write 0 in the first row, from 1200 RPM and upwards.
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According to the Tuneecu page:-
20306 - Stock OEM 1600 tune no SAI
20359- 1600 OEM aftermarket mufflers no SAI
20360- Stock OEM 1700 Storm no SAI
20363- OEM 1700 Storm aftermarket mufflers no SAI
Commander and LT tunes are different.
| Experience is something you get just after you needed it
1600,Foran Razorbacks, Meerkat bypass, Dyno tune, real headlight,plenty of chrome,switchblade pegs, Hagon Nitro shocks & Ikon progressive fork springs etc. Scorpion Western Low handlebars. PH adjustable fork caps.
| | Post edited by Leethal on 11 May 2020 - 22:52 |
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| | | Leethal | | Zeus | | | | Reg. Date | : | 24/01/2011 | | Posts | : | 6,407 | | Location | : | Australia |
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| | Posted : 11 May 2020 - 22:55 Post title : Re: popping (Re: Slcharger) | | | Slcharger wrote:
rayglo wrote:
Kim I hooked up blue tooth diagnostic. There were two choices to select, anyway I got a map code of 20359.
What are your thoughts
What is the stock 2700 map number? |
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Stock 1700 map is 20310.
20359 is the one to use with your mods., but still, I don't know how the PC5 will handle it.
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20310 is with SAI. 1700
20359 is 1600
| Experience is something you get just after you needed it
1600,Foran Razorbacks, Meerkat bypass, Dyno tune, real headlight,plenty of chrome,switchblade pegs, Hagon Nitro shocks & Ikon progressive fork springs etc. Scorpion Western Low handlebars. PH adjustable fork caps.
| | Post edited by Leethal on 11 May 2020 - 22:57 |
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| | | rayglo | | Jupiter | | | | Reg. Date | : | 27/10/2012 | | Posts | : | 1,746 | | Location | : | east brunswick, nj, United States |
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| | Posted : 11 May 2020 - 23:00 Post title : Re: popping (Re: Leethal) | | | Hey Lee, I know nothing about tuning. F-L tables, sounds like fuel and the L I don't know. I know the PC5 will hijack the fueling but is doesn't the timing come from the base tune?
Lee do i.need a different base tune?
I have the uniflo air filter, Platt pipes with the H member, and of course the PC5. What would you do? It's a 2112 with no SAI, should the SAI be switched off during tuning. If I need a tune I have to try to get it tomorrow, Wednesday I meet with the tuner. I would like to be of some help. I just saw your post 20363 is what I need
| | Post edited by rayglo on 11 May 2020 - 23:11 |
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| | | Leethal | | Zeus | | | | Reg. Date | : | 24/01/2011 | | Posts | : | 6,407 | | Location | : | Australia |
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| | Posted : 12 May 2020 - 03:05 Post title : Re: popping (Re: rayglo) | | | I would put the 20363 tune into the ecu, it is a 1700 Storm engine now?
| Experience is something you get just after you needed it
1600,Foran Razorbacks, Meerkat bypass, Dyno tune, real headlight,plenty of chrome,switchblade pegs, Hagon Nitro shocks & Ikon progressive fork springs etc. Scorpion Western Low handlebars. PH adjustable fork caps.
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| | | rayglo | | Jupiter | | | | Reg. Date | : | 27/10/2012 | | Posts | : | 1,746 | | Location | : | east brunswick, nj, United States |
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| | Posted : 12 May 2020 - 06:31 Post title : Re: popping (Re: Leethal) | | | Yes it's a 1700
Thanks
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| | | Linkdog | | Thor | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 10/02/2011 | | Posts | : | 2,923 | | Location | : | Groveland, FL., United States |
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| | Posted : 12 May 2020 - 13:05 Post title : Re: popping (Re: rayglo) | | | Wasn't the stock 1600 tune 20303 and 20306 the TOR tune?
| Never drink from a cow with one udder! 2010 1600 Blue&White ( of course ) Long TORS and HP filter.
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| | | rayglo | | Jupiter | | | | Reg. Date | : | 27/10/2012 | | Posts | : | 1,746 | | Location | : | east brunswick, nj, United States |
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| | Posted : 12 May 2020 - 16:06 Post title : Re: popping (Re: Linkdog) | | | Kevin I don't know much about that stuff.
But I did go to triumph this morning and told them which tune I wanted. They installed it but told me they had to manually force into the ECU because a 1700 has a different ECU. The bike runs great and decel pop was greatly diminished except a low rpm. I can almost live with it now if it weren't the few explosions.
Maybe tomorrow the Dyno guy can sort it.
So thanks for everyone's help, I keep you posted
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| | | Tal | | Jupiter | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 30/01/2015 | | Posts | : | 1,074 | | Location | : | Christchurch, Canterbury, New Zealand |
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| | Posted : 14 May 2020 - 07:11 Post title : Re: popping (Re: rayglo) | | | Hows it going team???...I hope everyone is well with this bloody virus circulating the globe....
My cobber purchased a 2012 Thunderbird 1600 today and it needs a tune, Its running stock mufflers and air filter with cat delete.
Which tune could we get done from the dealers for this set up?...cheers Tal
P.S. waiting on my Black GT Rocket...woop wooop!!
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| | | Linkdog | | Thor | | | | Reg. Date | : | 10/02/2011 | | Posts | : | 2,923 | | Location | : | Groveland, FL., United States |
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| | Posted : 14 May 2020 - 13:15 Post title : Re: popping (Re: Tal) | | | Run the 1600 TOR tune. I would also get rid of the stock pipes in the near future
| Never drink from a cow with one udder! 2010 1600 Blue&White ( of course ) Long TORS and HP filter.
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| | | Leethal | | Zeus | | | | Reg. Date | : | 24/01/2011 | | Posts | : | 6,407 | | Location | : | Australia |
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| | Posted : 14 May 2020 - 22:40 Post title : Re: popping (Re: Linkdog) | | |
Linkdog wrote:
Run the 1600 TOR tune. I would also get rid of the stock pipes in the near future |
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That is your only dealer option Tal.
| Experience is something you get just after you needed it
1600,Foran Razorbacks, Meerkat bypass, Dyno tune, real headlight,plenty of chrome,switchblade pegs, Hagon Nitro shocks & Ikon progressive fork springs etc. Scorpion Western Low handlebars. PH adjustable fork caps.
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| | | AZCactus | | Taranis | | | | Reg. Date | : | 01/05/2013 | | Posts | : | 4,524 | | Location | : | AZ |
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| | Posted : 15 May 2020 - 11:33 Post title : Re: popping (Re: Tal) | | | Tal wrote:
P.S. waiting on my Black GT Rocket...woop wooop!! |
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...should have waited for the new TBird!  it could be turbocharged.
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| | | Tal | | Jupiter | | | | Reg. Date | : | 30/01/2015 | | Posts | : | 1,074 | | Location | : | Christchurch, Canterbury, New Zealand |
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| | Posted : 16 May 2020 - 21:39 Post title : Re: popping (Re: Linkdog) | | | cheers guys....it just needs a tickle up as its a bit flat....we have found a guy who can strap on a laptop and do the tunecu thing on it so that will be an option...only charges a bottle of port so....
Another cobber came around home yesterday on his 2010 1600 after having it tuned. His bike was imported from Japan and they found the tune was really retarded????...maybe for emissions over there?..not sure. Anyway., she goes alot better now. He has had the stock mufflers gutted and shortened alot and it really cracks when he twists her open! Also, he has had 170mm risers made and fitted so he sits upright and back a tad...very comfy.
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| | | DrPat | | Set | | | Reg. Date | : | 15/03/2011 | | Posts | : | 27 | | Location | : | Dunedin, Otago, New Zealand |
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| | Posted : 26 May 2020 - 05:38 Post title : Re: popping (Re: Tal) | | | Gidday from down south Tal, sounds like you've got the tuning sorted up in Christchurch - is that mob in St Asaph St (Cockrams is it?) any good? I saw them in November and the mechanic sounds OK - they were just selling a 1700 with about 22,000 on it, and had sorted the tune out. We don't have a dealer down here (I often go to Invercargill).
I'm not even sure which tune I have now, but I still get some popping on the overrun going down hills. It's running so well otherwise that I'm reluctant to disturb it...
Good to be out of old Cindy's lockup eh? take it easy mate - Pat
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